daft_pink 6 hours ago

I think forcing developers to develop for more than just Chrome is not ruining the web.

kazinator 8 hours ago

People knowingly buying expensive status-signaling devices with locked down ecosystems is not ruining the web for everyone else.

selectodude 8 hours ago

Safari is the last browser standing between the open web and a Chromium monoculture.

  • politelemon 7 hours ago

    Absolutely not. It is its own highly dominant monoculture, arguably worse, and an enabler of their ongoing platform abuse and holding back of web standards.

    It has for a long time been a dual culture, it doesn't take long to run into this when doing web dev work. Applogists love to trot this line out when trying to defend their favourite trillion dollar company, and fail to see the effects it has on a much wider ecosystem.

    • spwa4 5 hours ago

      True of pretty much anything Apple. "For our user's security" they lock down devices entirely. No custom firmware, no custom apps, no ... and ... of course they charge for it, and when you look at how much their efforts to improve user's security cost them.

      https://www.statista.com/statistics/250918/apples-revenue-fr...

      Apple charges developers and users "for our user's security" (the App store is the vast majority of service income) about 27 billion dollars per year for it. In fact, this income is the ONLY new product Apple has made since the iPhone ...

  • tonyedgecombe 7 hours ago

    Yes, it may well be the cure for Apple's monopoly on this is worse than the disease.

thedevilslawyer 5 hours ago

Apple using security and privacy as an elastic shield is such transparent BS. Even apple supporters acknowledge it as BS and go with it only because of their loyalty.

The govts need to bring a 11% revenue penalty via anti-trust laws. Then's when it'll start showing effect.